On April 30 at 4:30 p.m., Taiwan's ex-Prime Minister Mr. Bwo-chwun Hau, who was visiting the United States, paid a special visit to the Venerable Master Hsuan Hua at the Administrative Office of the Dharma Realm Buddhist Association in Burlingame, California.
Ex-Prime Minister Hau: I am very sorry that I did not have chance to go to bow in the temple. (Ha, ha)
Ven. Master: You are very busy. Every day you have too many appointments.
Ex-Prime Minister Hau: It's not that. All the overseas Chinese want to meet me, and it's a lot a people.
Ven. Master: The overseas Chinese care very deeply about their homeland.
Ex-Prime Minister Hau: Yes, yes! I believe that everyone's concern about the country's government will exert a positive influence. Everyone is concerned.
Ven. Master: But the problem of Chinese people is that although they are concerned, they do not join forces. Failing to join together, they are all scattered. Each person has his own opinion, and there is an overall lack of unity. In Japan, the people have had such tremendous productivity all because they are united. (Right, right!) Every citizen loves the country (Yes!) and puts the group interest first. (Yes!) Otherwise, how could such a tiny country that was way behind catch up and forge ahead like this? (Ha, ha) There is a reason for it. (Yes.)
Mr. Jeng: Chairman of the Legislative Yuan, Lyang Su-Rung, sends, you his best regards.
Ven. Master: He also phoned me. You are very busy. (Mr. Jeng: Not too bad.) Where are you from? (Mr. Jeng: Henan.) Oh, Ywan Shr-kai was from Henan. (Laughter) It is rare for you to make this trip.
Ex-Prime Minister Hau: Today I made this special visit to briefly pay my respects to the Great Master.
Ven. Master: The next time you have a chance, come and live here for awhile.
Ex-Prime Minister Hau: I will!
Ven. Master: Then we can have a long conversation.
Ex-Prime Minister Hau: Yes, a long conversation about-‑
Ven. Master: The ultimate future of China.
Ex-Prime Minister Hau: Right!
Ven. Master: To the best of my knowledge, there will be changes in China in the future.
Ex-Prime Minister Hau: Yes, there will be changes.
Ven. Master: There will be a change of dynasty and a new emperor.
Ex-Prime Minister Hau: Ha!
Ven. Master: This is the road China is about to take. There will be a new regime, and the Communist Party will be changed. In the future, Chinese people will lead the world.
Ex-Prime Minister Hau: Right! So the people must unite--
Ven. Master: It cannot be the way it is now. A person with real virtue must come forth. If there is no virtuous person, it cannot happen.
Ex-Prime Minister Hau: Yes, but it must also rely on a system.
Ven. Master: One with virtue can rule the world. One without virtue will lose the power. (Ex-Prime Minister Hau: Right.) If you study the leaders of ancient China, whether they be emperors or others, you will see they all had great tolerance. Their capacity for benevolence was much greater than that of ordinary people. (Ex-Prime Minister Hau: Yes.) Why was the Jen Gwan reign period of the Tang Dynasty so illustrious? It was because Emperor Tai Tsung was able to use his enemy Wei-jen, to follow his advice faithfully without the slightest trace of doubt. That's why the Jeri Gwan reign was so successful. (Ex-Prime Minister Hau: Right, right!)
Mr. Cheng: Great Master and Chairman, this afternoon we have a meeting in the South Bay Area, and several hundred people are there waiting. Can we set another time to meet with the Great Master again?
Ven. Master: Fine.
Gwo Tyan-you: Will the Venerable Master please give his blessing to our Chairman?
Ven. Master: I wish you a glorious future.
Ex-Prime Minister Hau: Thank you.
Ven. Master: Keep working hard.
Ex-Prime Minister Hau: I will, I will.